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Dharmesh,
I just sent the Paul Graham post to several of my portfolio clients and entrepreneur friends, and now I'm about to send this to my angel and VC friends.
I've listened to a great many pitches, both one-on-one and in group settings. There is definitely an art to participating in pitches as an audience member. Since a startup company itself acts as the “client” to an angel, not the LP in a VC fund, I’ve found angels are warmer to the pitch than other investor types. On the other hand, I've also witnessed angels chomping at the bit to poke holes in a pitch or throw the entrepreneur off their game. This is predatory behavior and it's designed to show the other members of an audience how smart the potential investor thinks they are, but what it really does is demonstrate that you shouldn't co-invest with them. I find it incredibly rude and detrimental to the deal if someone in the audience raises an out-of-left-field question about the business or market, or asks an irrelevant question about an issue that is clearly further down the road than where the deal is – like tax or HR issues. I think that in an organized angel or investor group pitch, the group should strive to make the deal a success, whether they fund it or not, simply because it increases their deal flow in the future. If the entrepreneur leaves with a bad taste in their mouth, or feeling beat up, then they are certainly going to steer their startup peers away from the group.
I know I have a bad habit of interrupting with a softball question, but that is only to say that I "get it" so they can spend time on the exciting parts of the pitch. Although I think that questions, even hardball ones, are a much better sign for an entrepreneur than hearing nothing at all.
Great stuff!!
Could you provide more detail on why asking "how are you going to make money?' would not tell you something useful?
I always asked this question and the depth of response struck me as the best way of gauging the maturity of the commercial thinking of the entrepreneur(s). I find it pretty easy to penetrate BS in answers to this question. Its also pretty easy to see how the entrepreneur really sees something most miss about the market. Either way the asnwer to this question is testable with a little after-meeting legwork.
But I'd really like your elaboration.
Thanks, Richard
I agree that "how are you going to make money" is an important question.
In the above article, the basis for not asking it had more to do with context and timing. For most of the early-stage companies, like the YCombinator folks, there has not been enough time to think about business models. These are very young entrepreneurs that are looking to solve a specific problem and have not had rigorous thinking go into business models yet.
In regards to the advice on how to watch a startup presentation, it will be interesting to see how the VC's will respond while on camera on CBC's upcoming reality show. I've been keeping up-to-date with some of the buzz
www.insidethedragonsden.com), but essentially the show will consist of entrepreneurs pitching their ideas to the VCs for a series they're calling "Dragon's Den". I wonder if it will be over-dramaticized, or how different the VCs might be off-camera?
And since there are a few blogs logging the production (such as a "mentor capitalist" who's on the set and blogging at
www.seanwise.com), it does seem pretty realistic since he gives the play-by-play of the happenings. (I'll be watching and keeping up with the events about the show, with the plans of pitching myself one day; to that end, I figure the only difference with the entrepreneurs is that they might be sweating a little more than usual)
I think that your bullet points are useful for any type of meeting...be courtous, learn something...be present....keep things in context...
Good luck to the Y presenters...enjoy!
Nice reposte to Graham's presentation tips. When I envision YCombinator meetings I see mature investors and a bunch of kids pitching them. A reflection of the reality I see more often is mature entrepreneurs pitching to young VC's some of whom did not even experience the dotcom boom/bust, let alone the recession of the early '80s.
Apologies to those who may already have seen this but I think tailoring to the audience is important to keep the VC from fiddling with Blackberry in the midst of your selling him your dream.. (Most VCs in the UK here are 'him' so hold your PC guns)
Guy Kawasaki's 10/20/30 rule may go some way towards achieving better reception of your dreams..
http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2005/12/the_102030_rule.html
Bravo! These are all fantastic points, and it's about time somebody gave the investor some advice! I especially love point #5. Thanks Dharmesh! We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this batch of Y companies.
Dharmesh,
Insightful article. what will be your suggestion for the person who is presenting his potential business idea to VC.