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(I saw a link to this on reddit.)
$6000 is what MIT pays grad students, $2000 a month, x 3.
We do have competition, actually. Many of the startups we fund could have got angel money if they wanted. But the most serious competitor is Google, because the kind of founder we like tends to be eagerly recruited by them.
One thing you don't mention is our advice. With startups this early, we give a lot, and about all kinds of different things, from technical stuff to UI design to what to patent to where to get more money. I would guess this is more valuable than any label.
-- Paul Graham
Paul you are the MAN!! You gotta respect anyone who answers questions in the public forum.
I agree with the praise for Paul Graham. Virtually everything I have read by him is interesting and well thought out, and everytime I have run across a comment or critique of him (and/or his work) he has responded. Whether or not you agree with him, I think he is an intelligent, stand-up, guy.
The $100-200k valuation figure is also two narrow. Some of the startups recieved significantly more than this.
Given how much of YCombinator's philosophy is made public, I get the feeling that PG would be happy to have competition. It would represent his greatest gift to the startup community if other angels invested this way.
What will end all this speculation is the acquisition of one or more of these companies. That will either prove or disprove Paul's thesis on startups/ founders, etc...
Personally I am interested in whether we can derive any meaning from the results in a statistical sense or are we looking at a bad data point (as Paul has referred to Microsoft).
Fabulous article. The Ycombinator model is wonderful (in fact, I've launched a similar seed-stage funding company at http://www.day2.org), though I do agree with your criticisms. On other thing to point out is the geography issues... Ycominator sticks to funding people who are living (or willing to move) to two cities.
As you nearly suggested, I think the analogy with a record label is a good one. YCom is an indie label, putting out top quality startups with a particular flavour.
There doesn't seem to be anything wring with that at all.
Andy
What will end all this speculation is the acquisition of one or more of these companies.Three of them have already turned down lowball acquisition offers.
by lowball I think you mean less than the 100k valuation that the company was valued at by YC. That's hardly an acquisition worthy of significance (in the statistical sense).
If you have something to say.... SAY IT ALREADY! AND SAY IT WITH CONVICTION!!!
I think we will see a buyout of a Y Combinator-funded company. It's just a question of when. I personally think that at least one of the current crop will get bought out for over a million dollars.
But even if one of these companies does not produce a return to Y Combinator, I think there is still hope for Y Combinator. Great things are being done by the current crop of companies and I think this reason enough for Y Combinator to keep going at least through this summer (a 2nd summer founders program). And I really think that at least one company out of the current crop, the winter crop, and the summer crop, will succeed either by being bought out or making a good living for its founders.
Ben Atkin
by lowball I think you mean less than the 100k valuation that the company was valued at by YCNone were that low. One was for over a million.
I've launched a similar seed-stage funding company at http://www.day2.org"Similar" hardly does it justice, at least as regards the text on the site. Parts are paraphrased sentence by sentence from the YC site.
-- Paul Graham
I truly believe in Mr. Graham and what he is all about. I have always wanted to start a company at a young age (20). He is the guy that made me go for it now, instead of later in life. The startup companies already seem to be having success, just look at the traffic they bring into them. If they keep doing what there doing they will be on there way too an IPO or a buyout.
Best of luck to all of them.
Robert Mena
I think some of this are from YC.
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by lowball I think you mean less than the 100k valuation that the company was valued at by YCI heard that one was over 10 million!
I find Paul's writings inspirational. They add to the current "feel" that things are happening and you better start your company now or miss out on the next bubble.
However, you are too soft in your criticism. PG is completely focused on low investment software companies and gives advice to students that is great if they are in computer science, not so great if they English majors or mechanical engineers. They too should be thinking of not working for big companies.